Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapore, onwards
Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> Tue, 24 May 2016 16:01 UTC
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Subject: Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapore, onwards
To: Leslie Daigle <ldaigle@thinkingcat.com>
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On 5/24/16 10:38, Leslie Daigle wrote: > > Thanks, a cogent summary, though I think it underplays a couple of key > points: > > 1/ the cost of backing out of Singapore at this date (this is the > picture we’re trying to put together in a way that will be useful for > public consumption) Certainly, and I look forward to this information being shared with the community. As it appears to be the key practical countervailing argument, I would have hoped to have seen it in the initial message from the IAOC on the topic. > 2/ whether a broader range of people than have failed to unsubscribe > from the IETF@ mailing list are on board with canceling (there are a > few different conversations that are going on in the background and > they are not all supportive of canceling). I'm sure there are. Be careful when using majority opinion to make decisions that affect minority populations. Tyranny of the majority remains the Achilles heel of democracies (and this is writ large in consensus building exercises). /a
- A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapore, o… Leslie Daigle
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Randy Presuhn
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Alissa Cooper
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Stephen Farrell
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Ted Hardie
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Stephen Farrell
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Jari Arkko
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Leslie Daigle
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Adam Roach
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Adam Roach
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Leslie Daigle
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Michael Richardson
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Ben Campbell
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… George Michaelson
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Randy Bush
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… John C Klensin
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Michael Richardson
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Sandoche Balakrichenan
- Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapor… Michal Krsek