Re: [dkim unverified] Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailing Lists
Michael Thomas <mat@cisco.com> Mon, 14 April 2008 18:16 UTC
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Subject: Re: [dkim unverified] Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailing Lists
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Eliot Lear wrote: > Russ, > > >> When IETF lists are housed somewhere other than ietf.org, they are >> supposed to include an archive recipient so that there is an archive >> available at ietf.org (perhaps in addition to the one kept at the >> place where the list is housed). >> >> > > I'll agree with Phill's conclusion on this one. > > I think there is probably convenience value to housing the mailing lists > at the IETF. It allows for a single whitelist, reduction in those > annoying monthly messages that we eventually all filter into the > bitbucket. Also, it probably is easier to effect and audit policy > (such as we have any) in terms of message retention, uniform access, etc. > The other things is when we start DKIM signing (HINT HINT), it will give a single identity for reputation, etc to latch onto. Mike _______________________________________________ IETF mailing list IETF@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
- IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailing Li… IESG Secretary
- RE: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… Daniel Brown
- RE: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… Russ Housley
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… Eliot Lear
- Re: [dkim unverified] Re: IESG Statement on Spam … Michael Thomas
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… Frank Ellermann
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… Henrik Levkowetz
- RE: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… Ned Freed
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… Dave Crocker
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… Ned Freed
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… Ned Freed
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… Randy Presuhn
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… Ned Freed
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… John Levine
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… Ned Freed
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… Rich Kulawiec
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… Tim Chown
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… Tom.Petch
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… Tom.Petch
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… James Galvin
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… TS Glassey
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… James Galvin
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… James Galvin
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… James Galvin
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… Frank Ellermann
- RE: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… Cullen Jennings
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… James Galvin
- Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailin… Frank Ellermann