Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm
Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Sun, 12 August 2012 21:49 UTC
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Subject: Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Paradigm
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From: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>
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On Aug 12, 2012, at 19:51, Stewart Bryant <stbryant@cisco.com> wrote: > If I interpret what you seem to be saying, it is that you care > more for the micro-observance of IETF protocol, than > taking steps to avoid Internet governance being > transferred by government decree to a secretive > agency of the UN that runs by government majority. That is the question that is not clear to me either. I do believe the process question is an absolutely useful one. We should have a process that is able to handle multilateral activities that include the IETF, with an element of negotiation, even compromise, and so on. This is a case where leadership is actually required, and I don't think that process is an established one at all. We do know how to run liaisons, which is probably the closest model to adhere to. We know why we have handed the keys to this to the IAB. (The present document is not prescriptive anyway, it is descriptive, and the IETF chair in concert with the IAB chair should be able to act on this level after a modicum of consultation.) If the process question was actually raised to derail the signing of the current document, my reaction would be quite similar to Stewart's. As I said before, sometimes you have to act. Grüße, Carsten
- VS: Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards … Jari Arkko
- Re: VS: Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standa… Dave Crocker
- Re: Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards … Carsten Bormann
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… Dave Crocker
- Re: VS: Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standa… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… Dave Crocker
- Re: [MARKETING] Re: VS: Re: [IAB] Last Call: Mode… Stewart Bryant
- Re: VS: Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standa… Glen Zorn
- Re: Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards … Glen Zorn
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… SM
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… Glen Zorn
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… SM
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… Barry Leiba
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… Dave Crocker
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… Barry Leiba
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… Dave Crocker
- Metadiscussion [Last Call: Modern Global Standard… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… Lixia Zhang
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… SM
- Please, not more process (was: [IAB] Last Call: M… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards … Michael StJohns
- Re: Please, not more process (was: [IAB] Last Cal… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards Para… Brian E Carpenter
- RE: Re: [IAB] Last Call: Modern Global Standards … Richard Shockey
- One sentence SM