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Re: AD Sponsorship of draft-moonesamy-recall-rev

Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> Wed, 24 April 2019 21:22 UTC

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From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 23:22:20 +0200
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Subject: Re: AD Sponsorship of draft-moonesamy-recall-rev
To: Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
Cc: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>, S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>
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On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 10:20 PM Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 06:58:44PM +0000, Salz, Rich wrote:
> > >    Would the decision of an Area Director/IESG not to sponsor the
> > >    draft be considered as behaviour that adversely affect the
> > >    standardization process?
> >
> > No, because the concern seems to be about deciding the right venue
> > where *more input* can be put into the document.
>
> +1.  AD decisions to not sponsor a draft are really not the sort of
> decisions that can be appealed.  You've got two ADs per-area, if you
> can't get either of them, or any of the others, to sponsor your draft,
> then maybe you're doing things wrong.  A BoF/WG seems like a fine
> starting point.
>
> I'd also like to second EKR's proposal that the IAB and IESG should get
> a first crack at policing themselves.

Is that something happening at this IESG retreat?

> That wouldn't exclude a proper
> recall mechanism that can be initiated outside the IAB/IESG, but maybe
> we wouldn't need to make that mechanism too easy to start.  Lastly, a
> mechanism for quickly dealing with frivolous petitions can make it
> tolerable to make starting a recall process too easy.
>
> Nico
> --
>


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