Re: new DNS classes

Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> Mon, 10 July 2017 21:49 UTC

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Subject: Re: new DNS classes
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On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:22 PM, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:

> In article <20170710011426.3BE867E1FE36@rock.dv.isc.org> you write:
> >b) For DNS tools to add support for allocated data types within X
> >   months of them being assigned by IANA.  Allocated types are
> >   supposed to have stable wire and presentation formats.
>
> I think we can agree that we all want a pony.
>

​That mis-states the argument. Someone made a factual claim that deployment
of new RRs was not hard. Others repudiated that claim. Instead of
retracting the statement, the argument changed to how easy it would be to
fix it.
​