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Re: Interim step on meetings site feedback for sites currently under active consideration

Christian O'Flaherty <christian.oflaherty@gmail.com> Tue, 19 April 2016 17:37 UTC

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Subject: Re: Interim step on meetings site feedback for sites currently under active consideration
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> On Apr 18, 2016, at 2:41 PM, Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On 4/18/16 9:09 AM, Dan Harkins wrote:
>> But
>> I think these issues should be balanced with the overall benefit
>> that the IETF World Tour provides.
> 
> As I've said repeatedly, I don't think the world tour actually
> does bring much benefit.  I'm very hopeful that some of the
> South Americans who attended their first IETF meeting because
> it was held in Buenos Aires will continue to participate (as in:
> bring in work and participate in ongoing work, and not as in: sit
> in meetings) but historically that has not been the case.  


BTW… if there’s a way to keep track and measure that additional active participation from Latin America I’ll be happy to do it.

I’m open to suggestions on how it can be than.

Christian  




> I also
> think that the world tour tends to have the unintended side-effect
> of overemphasizing the importance of meetings to our process.
> 
> Also, note that a large number of regulars opted to skip the meeting
> in Buenos Aires.  Granted, there are those who might see that as
> a benefit.
> 
> Melinda
>

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