Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward running code...
Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Sun, 02 December 2012 15:00 UTC
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Subject: Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward running code...
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On 12/01/2012 11:51 PM, Melinda Shore wrote: > On 12/1/12 2:21 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote: >> My reluctance to get into this is based on an opinion that process >> change proposals with more words attached tend to just not happen, >> so fewer words is better. > > I think that's actually a pretty terrible reason. Well, I think its an ok reason for not fully answering Dave's question in this case, given the latitude offered by RFC 3933. Tactical reticence like this would not be a reason to adopt anything, I agree. > The goal is > not to get the proposal through, the goal is to improve > something. That said, while I don't like change just for the > sake of change I think that change for the sake of betterment is > a very good thing indeed. The main thing is that I've been trying > to figure out where the harm would be here and I haven't been > able to identify anything substantive. I'd be good with giving > this a limited run and seeing how it goes. Great. S. > > Melinda > >
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Stephen Farrell
- Idea for a process experiment to reward running c… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Dave Crocker
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Melinda Shore
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… SM
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Yoav Nir
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Dave Crocker
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Barry Leiba
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Dave Crocker
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Melinda Shore
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Barry Leiba
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Barry Leiba
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Hector Santos
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Hector Santos
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… John C Klensin
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Stewart Bryant
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Barry Leiba
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Barry Leiba
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Elwyn Davies
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Carsten Bormann
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Elwyn Davies
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Dave Crocker
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Barry Leiba
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Elwyn Davies
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Barry Leiba
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Sam Hartman
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Jari Arkko
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Jari Arkko
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Jari Arkko
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… David Morris
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Stephen Farrell
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Randy Bush
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Barry Leiba
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Danny McPherson
- RE: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: Idea for a process experiment to reward runni… Stephen Farrell