Re: The Next Generation

Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org> Wed, 04 September 2019 01:44 UTC

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Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2019 18:44:10 -0700
From: Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org>
Subject: Re: The Next Generation
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On 9/3/19 5:57 PM, Rob Sayre wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 5:42 PM Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org 
> <mailto:dharkins@lounge.org>> wrote:
>
>
>     *BEGONE TROLL!
>     *
>
>
> Hello Dan,
>
> I don't think that is a very nice thing to say, but I like the text 
> formatting.
>
> Is there something that offends you about handing off IETF matters to 
> a younger and more diverse set of members? After all, people will retire.
>
> I would like to understand that concern.

   It is my contention that you are trolling this list trying to get a 
rise out
of people. And I take exception to it. That is my only concern. It might be
funny for you to see a whole bunch of people start arguing about 
"communities"
and their representation and things like that but it's trolling straight up.

   Dan.