Re: Best list for IETF last calls [was: Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org]

"Carlos M. Martinez" <carlosm3011@gmail.com> Sun, 09 June 2013 20:45 UTC

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Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2013 17:45:17 -0300
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As long the subject clearly identifies a last call request thread, I
don't see why the LC's cannot stay here.

There are already too many mailing lists in the world.

My humble opinion.

~Carlos

On 6/7/13 5:00 PM, Melinda Shore wrote:
> On 6/7/13 11:52 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>> Rule 1 for complex and divergent mail threads is to change the
>> Subject header when the subject changes. If you don't do that,
>> your mail is rather likely to get junked.
>>
>> I think that IETF last call threads should stay on the main IETF
>> discussion list. That is exactly the right place for them.
> 
> I tend to think so, as well.  You never know when someone's
> going to stumble over something and make a comment that matters.
> The cost is that you get jackasses being loud and petty, but frankly
> you'd get that on a last call mailing list, anyway, since IETF
> last calls have in a few cases been known to function as jackass
> magnets.
> 
> It seems to me that the real problem isn't last calls, it's
> people not understanding that behaving badly has a cost associated
> with it, and that cost is that they're alienating people they'd
> (apparently) like to work with and demolishing their chances of
> getting an editorship or moving into leadership roles.
> 
> Melinda
>