Re: RFC archival format, was: Re: More liberal draft formatting standards required
Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Mon, 13 July 2009 20:10 UTC
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Subject: Re: RFC archival format, was: Re: More liberal draft formatting standards required
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Douglas Otis wrote: > ... > Use of xml2rfc conversions has uncovered some odd quirks. The tool does > not cache bibliographic database selections. Either this works on-line, > or the entire database needs to be local. Not to diminish the service > offered by Carl Malamud, occasional sporadic connections to the > xml.resource.org servers can be a cause of angst for authors who have > ... If it hurts, don't do it. Translation: if you don't want to rely on network resources, keep a local copy. I recommend that anyway, so that the xml2rfc input file is self-contained. Relying on external references for internet drafts is fragile anyway: that the reference automatically updates to the latest version may look handy, but may cause authors to miss important changes. > ... > not obtained the entire tarred xml bibliographic database. Lately, the > dependability of the xml2rfc approach has become less reliable when > dealing with cryptic entries and beta TCL needed to generate I-D > boilerplate language as required by nit checker. > ... The "experimental" version (http://xml.resource.org/experimental.html) is as stable as predecessor versions; the main reason it hasn't been released is that the authors (IMHO) expected more boilerplate changes to occur. And what exactly do you mean by "cryptic entries"? > This makes one wonder whether there could be a better way. A hybrid > approach might offer the similar features found in xml2rfc with the > simpler the inputs supported by 'roff. This would not exclude the use > of Word, but would not depend upon any of Word's content automations. > Perhaps a bit of Perl could provide the pre and post processors to > handle something that resembles the xml2rfc front section. While roff > is not perfect, it has been more stable than other WISIWYG word > processors and, when used in conjunction with separate pre/post > processors, can generate the desired alternative outputs. I think the right approach is to either help maintaining the TCL code, or to rewrite xml2rfc in a different language. BR; Julian
- Re: RFC archival format, was: Re: More liberal dr… Doug Ewell
- Re: RFC archival format, was: Re: More liberal dr… Douglas Otis
- Re: RFC archival format, was: Re: More liberal dr… Doug Ewell
- Re: RFC archival format, was: Re: More liberal dr… Douglas Otis
- MS Word flame war (was: Re: RFC archival format) Doug Ewell
- Re: Avoid unknown code sources (was: Re: RFC arch… Douglas Otis
- Re: Avoid unknown code sources (was: Re: RFC arch… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: RFC archival format, was: Re: More liberal dr… james woodyatt
- IETF languages, was: something about RFCs Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: IETF languages, was: something about RFCs james woodyatt
- Re: RFC archival format, was: Re: More liberal dr… Byung-Hee HWANG
- Re: RFC archival format, was: Re: More liberal dr… Doug Ewell
- Re: RFC archival format, was: Re: More liberal dr… Douglas Otis
- Re: RFC archival format, was: Re: More liberal dr… Julian Reschke
- Re: RFC archival format, was: Re: More liberal dr… Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: RFC archival format, was: Re: More liberal dr… Doug Ewell
- Re: RFC archival format, was: Re: More liberal dr… Doug Otis
- Re: RFC archival format, was: Re: More liberal dr… Julian Reschke
- Re: RFC archival format, was: Re: More liberal dr… Iljitsch van Beijnum