Re: Planned changes to registration payments & deadlines
John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Tue, 24 April 2018 04:46 UTC
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 00:45:55 -0400
From: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
To: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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--On Monday, April 23, 2018 23:01 -0400 Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote: > On Apr 23, 2018, at 10:46 PM, Brian E Carpenter > <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote: >> That varies very widely, but sadly it might work the other >> way: even if it's internal procedure that causes you to miss >> the early-bird deadline, some companies I can think of would >> still ding you for paying full rate. > > There are many varieties of craziness in corporate > bureaucracy. Is it the IETF's job to account for them all? > :) No. But, if the IETF wants a broad range of expertise and perspectives to be represented, then we had best be sensitive to the implications of changes that might [further] decrease that range. I don't think any of us can predict those effects with guaranteed accuracy, but saying "well, it is just too bad for anyone who can't adapt, or who works for an organization that won't adapt, we don't need them" seems to me to be unwise. It could turn out to be especially unwise if our credibility as a standards-setter turned out to depend on exactly those properties, and relying on no one noticing also seems unwise. john
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