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Re: Names on blue sheets

Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> Wed, 04 June 2025 19:05 UTC

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Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2025 15:04:52 -0400
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Subject: Re: Names on blue sheets
To: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
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Hmm... Started reading this thread, looked at the entry in the Data Tracker
for the draft and though 'Bet Flo D. is Flo Driscoll and Michael P. Is
Michael Parsons'.

Then went to the draft and found I was right because they have both given
their full names there.

Yes, there are some folk who participate in IETF under an alias and some
folk who have interesting personal security concerns. But this isn't one of
them.



On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 8:01 PM Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Jennifer Richards <jennifer@staff.ietf.org> wrote:
> > Because that is the name of the Person record in the Datatracker:
> >
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/person/Michael%20P
>
> Is there a special policy for British government employees? Why can't they
> write their full name?
>
> thanks,
> Rob
>
>
>

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