Re: If Muslims are blocked by the U.S., should the IETF respond?

Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@gmail.com> Mon, 30 January 2017 16:53 UTC

Subject: Re: If Muslims are blocked by the U.S., should the IETF respond?
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From: Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@gmail.com>
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On 1/30/17 7:30 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
> but sadly, i do not think the ietf has the guts and the vision to even
> do what an organization such as the iacr, crypto assn which has long
> experience with real politik etc. has done, [ ... ]

Over the years it has become clear that being a consensus-oriented
organization with a diverse participation makes it impossible for
the IETF to make statements like this.  It would need to come from the
chair, the IAB chair, or the I*.  (Yes, I think this is a problem)

Melinda

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Re: If Muslims are blocked by the U.S., should the IETF respond?

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