Re: Planned experiment: A new mailing list for last-call discussions

Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Mon, 16 September 2019 20:12 UTC

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From: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 15:12:18 -0500
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Subject: Re: Planned experiment: A new mailing list for last-call discussions
To: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
Cc: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>, Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>, Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>, IETF <ietf@ietf.org>
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On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 2:56 PM John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>; wrote:

> >
> > So, I think there is an argument for keeping procedural RFCs
> > and "everything else" on ietf@ietf.org. I'm not sure how easy
> > it would be to do that.
>
> Actually, Rob, what I think I've observed is that the really
> long, tedious, threads on which many people have opinions and
> feel a need to express them multiple times are typically about
> procedural issues, with many, if not most, derived from
> documents in Last Call.  So maybe three lists rather than two or
> maybe we should push the procedural and administrative
> discussions off into an "ietf-procedures" list and keep the
> technical discussions and Last Calls on the IETF one.
>

I don't think it matters which list is which, but I do think the spirit of
the proposal is to keep both the procedural ratholes (like this one...) and
the catch-all/backstop/everything-else discussions away from the technical
last-call traffic.

thanks,
Rob