Re: ietf.org unaccessible for Tor users

Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Wed, 16 March 2016 07:32 UTC

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Subject: Re: ietf.org unaccessible for Tor users
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
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From: Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>
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Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 08:32:09 +0100
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On 3/16/16 8:06 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
> it is not ours to say what others should and should not read, or to
> which they should have easier access. to do so is called censorship.

Nobody's prohibiting access to any of our public documents.  And as
someone pointed out elsewhere, if one wants to copy every last bit of
IETF documentation, they are able to do so and provide whatever access
they wish.  To my knowledge nobody else has raised the concern that that
the Tor people are raising, and so we are being asked to specifically
support Tor.  Fine.  That means we then need to consider the
benefit/harm of our actions regarding who precisely we are helping.  I
asked that question honestly without an answer, but with concerns.

Eliot