Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-3777upd-eligibility-01.txt

Barry Leiba <> Fri, 17 August 2012 19:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-3777upd-eligibility-01.txt
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Russ has raised a couple of good points.  I like John's solution to
one of them, and SM has proposed a good solution to the other off
list.  I have the following changes in the pending next version.

I've slightly edited John's text, and Section 4, bullet 3, paragraph 1
will now change to this:

   The nominating committee comprises a Chair, ten voting volunteers,
   the immediate past nominating committee Chair as an advisor, plus
   liaisons and possible additional advisor(s) as described herein.

SM suggests fixing the "liaisons" issue by changing the definition of
"sitting member" instead of by trying to explain it in bullet 15.1.  I
agree that that's cleaner.

The update to Section 2, paragraph 6 will change to this:

sitting member:  A person who is currently serving a term of membership
      in, and having a standing to participate in the decisions of,
      the IESG, the IAB, the IAOC, or the ISOC Board of Trustees.
      Liaisons from other bodies are not sitting members, by this definition.
      (For example, an IESG liaison to the IAB is not a sitting member of
      the IAB, though it may be a sitting member of the IESG.)

The new bullet 15.1 in Section 4 will change to this:

15.1.  Members of the Internet Society Board of Trustees and sitting
        members of the IAB, the IESG, and the IAOC, including members
        in ex-officio positions, may not volunteer to serve as voting members
        of the nominating committee.