Re: Regarding "Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service"

Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Sat, 28 November 2020 00:26 UTC

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Subject: Re: Regarding "Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service"
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On 11/27/20 7:22 PM, Adam Roach wrote:

> So, that's not *strictly* accurate. Someone's put a FUSE wrapper 
> around the rsync commmand in a way that makes the remote rsync module 
> mount as a local filesystem:
>
> https://github.com/zaddach/fuse-rsync
>
> I'm not sure this is the kind of solution people would be happy with, 
> though.
>
It's certainly not a solution that everyone is likely to be able to use, 
but I'm nonetheless intrigued by it.   I'll give it a try, and thanks 
for mentioning it.

(still, python?  I love the language but am often appalled at how slow 
it is.)

Keith