RE: Options for IETF administrative restructuring
Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> Wed, 01 September 2004 16:48 UTC
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Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 10:20:48 +0200
From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>
To: Christian de Larrinaga <cdel@firsthand.net>, Leslie Daigle <leslie@thinkingcat.com>, ietf@ietf.org
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Subject: RE: Options for IETF administrative restructuring
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Christian, apologies for the slow response - my mailbox has been out of commission since Monday (crashed disk and informal recovery procedures). --On 30. august 2004 12:26 +0100 Christian de Larrinaga <cdel@firsthand.net> wrote: > Firstly congratulations to all those involved in compiling this work. > > I have three questions before being able to comment in more detail. > > 1/ Has a decision been made not to sub contract out (under formal > agreements) the tasks currently being managed fairly informally by > Foretec/CNRI to professional adminstration organisations? No decisions have been made - this document lays out options for the IETF community, and the IESG and IAB has not made its recommendation yet. However, I believe that everything we have seen so far indicates that the tasks currently being managed by Foretec/CNRI should be managed under formal arrangements, and that we should choose the provider of such services that is best for the IETF. Staying with Foretec has the advantage that transition costs can be minimized; we don't have information on other possible providers yet. That's a long way of answering "no" to your question..... > 2/ What funding requirement is expected from ISOC and ISOC members to > manage the IETF functions outlined? We do not know yet. The minimum extra cost to be covered is the cost of the administrative director (section 3.1). There is a transition cost, and a cost (which may be higher or lower than the existing cost) of the new mode of operation. ISOC has put aside a significant chunk of money in its 2004 budget (see the report annex B.2) to cover the cost of transition. > 3/ Do we have an analysis of the policy implications in bringing > responsibility for the administration of Internet Standards negotiation > into the same body that is responsible for their oversight (via > appointment of IAB and Trustee appeal role)? That's what the discussion in section 4.2.3 (Scenario B) is intended to cover. See also the comment in section 4.5 (Scenario D). So there has been thought applied to this topic. I don't know whether you consider that an "analysis" or not - this is one topic where I would like to get feedback from the community. Harald _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
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