Re: FWIW: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns-07.txt to Proposed Standard
Thierry Moreau <thierry.moreau@connotech.com> Tue, 10 February 2009 14:39 UTC
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To: Marshall Eubanks <tme@multicasttech.com>
Subject: Re: FWIW: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns-07.txt to Proposed Standard
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I agree with Brian and Marshall, but let me introduce a different perspective on the issue. Marshall Eubanks wrote: > [...] > > I don't see any sensible way you get from the [Brian interprtetation] to the > [FSF interpretation]. > Maybe it's a matter of ideological objection to patents. Engineering is not always rational, ideology sneaks in in various ways, sometimes under the name ethic. So you see a bunch of instantaneous IETF volunteers who whish to bring a consensus based on some form of ethic (as they see it, I presume). What can the IETF do? Is there some obscure provision in IETF processes that can turn down participation based on manifest ideological grounds that do not resist analysis from another perspective? Incidentally, it is intriguing to see the FSF deeply rooted in the Copyright foundation (Berne convention) for ensuring legal protection of intellectual property, and at the same time so ideologically opposed to the patent foundation (Paris convention). But at this point, it becomes useless to argue with them about patents. Some form of procedural integrity should be sought by the IETF if there is anything to be salvaged after being victimized by instantaneous volunteering based on ideological grounds. Good luck! -- - Thierry Moreau CONNOTECH Experts-conseils inc. 9130 Place de Montgolfier Montreal, Qc Canada H2M 2A1 Tel.: (514)385-5691 Fax: (514)385-5900 web site: http://www.connotech.com e-mail: thierry.moreau@connotech.com
- Evaluation: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns-07.txt … Dimitrios P. Bouras
- FWIW: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns-07.txt to Pro… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: FWIW: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns-07.txt to… Tim Bray
- Re: FWIW: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns-07.txt to… Marshall Eubanks
- RE: FWIW: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns-07.txt to… Powers Chuck-RXCP20
- Re: FWIW: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns-07.txt to… Simon Josefsson
- RE: FWIW: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns-07.txt to… Pasi.Eronen
- Re: FWIW: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns-07.txt to… Thierry Moreau
- Re: FWIW: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns-07.txt to… Simon Josefsson
- Re: FWIW: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns-07.txt to… Thierry Moreau
- Re: ideological opposition to patents Ofer Inbar
- Re: FWIW: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns-07.txt to… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: FWIW: guessing about draft-housley-tls-authz-… John Levine
- RE: FWIW: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns-07.txt to… Pasi.Eronen