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Re: Bruce Schneier's Proposal to dedicate November meeting to saving the Internet from the NSA

Tobias Gondrom <tobias.gondrom@gondrom.org> Sun, 15 September 2013 13:10 UTC

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Subject: Re: Bruce Schneier's Proposal to dedicate November meeting to saving the Internet from the NSA
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On 09/09/13 09:29, Eliot Lear wrote:
> We're talking.
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> Eliot
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> On 9/9/13 10:20 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>> So, has Bruce Schneier actually been invited to speak at the Technical Plenary (or elsewhere) during the Vancouver IETF?  I recall him giving an informative talk at least one previous Tech Plenary, and in light of his 'proposal', if would be interesting to hear what he believes to be broken, and what the IETF might be able to do to help fix it.
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>> 	Ross.
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A small comment: actually I would like to (read: expect to) read what he
(and others) believe to be broken _before_ the next Plenary and giving a
speak there. And as specific and constructive as possible. That way we
will be much more effective talking about issues at the plenary and
starting stuff at WGs.

Best regards, Tobias

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