Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-iasa2-trust-update-00.txt> (Update to the Selection of Trustees for the IETF Trust) to Best Current Practice
S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Tue, 25 September 2018 05:01 UTC
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Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 21:59:39 -0700
To: Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>, ietf@ietf.org
From: S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com>
Subject: Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-iasa2-trust-update-00.txt> (Update to the Selection of Trustees for the IETF Trust) to Best Current Practice
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Hi Ted, At 02:08 PM 24-09-2018, Ted Hardie wrote: >Thanks for the review. The issue here is that RFC 4071 and RFC 4371 >will be obsolete at the end of the IASA 2.0 process, and the aim is >to make the process listed here complete without needing to read the >previous iterations of BCP 101. If the document didn't reference >the previous document at all, do you think it is clear how the >Trustees are selected? Thanks for the prompt reply. One of the points which I missed in my previous comment was that the draft obsoletes RFC 4371. The draft updates instead of obsoleting RFC 4071 by removing a sentence which RFC 4371 added to Section 3.2 of RFC 4071. The appointments as specified in Section 2 are clear. >I don't think so, as it is the "why", where this document is >intended to be narrowly scoped to how. An informative reference >makes sense, and it has already been suggested. It might be useful to publish the "why" if the RFCs are viewed as part of an archival series. >This document doesn't update BCP 10, so I believe your change has to >be directed there, not at this document. The WG charter states that existing IETF and IAB appointments are out of scope. As the draft specifies new appointments, I presume that matters related to appointments are included as part of this Last Call. The IETF rules regarding recalls are specified in this draft by reference. Is it fair that IETF rules with respect to the recall of IETF Trustees be unavailable to roughly one third of the IETF? That is the question which the IESG may have to give some thought to. As a comment about BCP 10, a side effect of removing the re quirement that trustees be drawn from the members of the IAOC is that BCP 10 would no longer be applicable given that the document does not say anything about IETF trustees. That also removes an ineligibility requirement which is currently applicable to an IETF trustee given that the that "IETF rules" are ambiguous. Regards, S. Moonesamy
- Re: [Iasa20] Last Call: <draft-ietf-iasa2-trust-u… John Levine
- Re: [Iasa20] Last Call: <draft-ietf-iasa2-trust-u… Bob Hinden
- RE: Last Call: <draft-ietf-iasa2-trust-update-00.… Adrian Farrel
- Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-iasa2-trust-update-00.… S Moonesamy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-iasa2-trust-update-00.… Ted Hardie
- Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-iasa2-trust-update-00.… S Moonesamy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-iasa2-trust-update-00.… Ted Hardie
- Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-iasa2-trust-update-00.… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Iasa20] Last Call: <draft-ietf-iasa2-trust-u… Scott Mansfield
- Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-iasa2-trust-update-00.… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Iasa20] Last Call: <draft-ietf-iasa2-trust-u… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Iasa20] Last Call: <draft-ietf-iasa2-trust-u… John Levine
- Re: [Iasa20] Last Call: <draft-ietf-iasa2-trust-u… Scott Mansfield
- Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-iasa2-trust-update-00.… Jari Arkko
- RE: Last Call: <draft-ietf-iasa2-trust-update-00.… Adrian Farrel
- RE: Last Call: <draft-ietf-iasa2-trust-update-00.… Adrian Farrel
- Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-iasa2-trust-update-00.… Livingood, Jason
- Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-iasa2-trust-update-00.… Pete Resnick
- Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-iasa2-trust-update-00.… Pete Resnick
- Re: [Iasa20] Last Call: <draft-ietf-iasa2-trust-u… Livingood, Jason