Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings
Mary Barnes <mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com> Fri, 03 August 2012 22:20 UTC
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Subject: Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings
From: Mary Barnes <mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com>
To: Ole Jacobsen <ole@cisco.com>, Alexa Morris <amorris@amsl.com>
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Thanks! On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Ole Jacobsen <ole@cisco.com> wrote: > > The narrowness of the corridoors, placement of food/drink and all that > was discussed in our wrap-up meeting this morning, and indeed the > issues you have raised were indentified as areas for improvement. > Since we are coming back to THIS hotel, there are certainly things > that can be done better, and will be done better, next time. > > Ole > > > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > Skype: organdemo > > > On Fri, 3 Aug 2012, Mary Barnes wrote: > > > The issue that I experienced (and why I'm fussing) is that if you were > > attending many sessions in the Regency rooms (and moving rooms between > > sessions), it was extremely difficult to weave your way through the > > corridor as many people were having their discussion directly in the > middle > > of the corridor. There just was not room in that corridor for side > > conversations. The situation was made worse as that corridor was where > > they served the refreshments. And trying to ask people politely to move > > generally had no impact in my experience as people were too engaged in > > their conversations. > > > > Mary. > > > > On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Thomas Nadeau <tnadeau@lucidvision.com > >wrote: > > > > > I agree with randy. I've never had an issue finding a place to > huddle/meet > > > when necessary at an ietf meeting venue. between the hallways, bar, > etc I'm > > > not sure what the fuss is all about. > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 2012, at 3:27 PM, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote: > > > > > > >>> i have no need to micro-manage the secretariat. > > > >> seems to happen a lot around here... > > > > > > > > symptom of too much free time on hands > > > > > > > > randy > > > > > > > > > >
- Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Paul Hoffman
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Scott Brim
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Mary Barnes
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Paul Hoffman
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Mary Barnes
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Randy Bush
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Mark Nottingham
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Glen Zorn
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Randy Bush
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Mary Barnes
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Mary Barnes
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Thomas Nadeau
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Mary Barnes
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Alexa Morris
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Ole Jacobsen
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Mary Barnes
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Stephen Farrell
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings James Polk
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Tim Chown
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Tim Chown
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Michael Richardson
- management granularity (Re: Meeting "lounges" at … Dave Crocker
- Re: management granularity (Re: Meeting "lounges"… Livingood, Jason
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Michael Richardson {quigon}
- RE: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Worley, Dale R (Dale)
- Re: management granularity (Re: Meeting "lounges"… John Levine
- Re: management granularity (Re: Meeting "lounges"… Dave Crocker
- Re: management granularity (Re: Meeting "lounges"… Mark Nottingham
- Re: Meeting "lounges" at IETF meetings Andrew G. Malis
- Re: management granularity (Re: Meeting "lounges"… SM
- So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management granular… Andrew Sullivan
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- Re: So, where to repeat? joel jaeggli
- RE: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management gran… Ole Jacobsen
- RE: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management gran… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management gran… Andrew Sullivan
- RE: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management gran… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management gran… Mary Barnes
- RE: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management gran… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management gran… Mary Barnes
- RE: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management gran… Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
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- Re: So, where to repeat? (was: Re: management gra… John R Levine
- Re: So, where to repeat? (was: Re: management gra… Mary Barnes
- Re: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management gran… Andrew G. Malis
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- RE: So, where to repeat? (was: Re: management gra… Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
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- Re: So, where to repeat? (was: Re: management gra… Ole Jacobsen
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- Re: So, where to repeat? (was: Re: management gra… Dave Crocker
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- Re: So, where to repeat? (was: Re: management gra… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: So, where to repeat? (was: Re: management gra… Dave Crocker
- Re: So, where to repeat? (was: Re: management gra… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: management granularity (Re: Meeting "lounges"… Vinayak Hegde
- Re: So, where to repeat? (was: Re: management gra… John Levine
- Re: So, where to repeat? (was: Re: management gra… John Levine
- Re: management granularity (Re: Meeting "lounges"… SM
- RE: So, where to repeat? (was: Re: management gra… Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
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- Re: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management gran… Geoff Mulligan
- Re: So, where to repeat? (was:Re: management gran… Geoff Mulligan
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- Re: So, where to repeat? (was: Re: management gra… Dave Crocker
- RE: So, where to repeat? (was: Re: management gra… Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
- Re: So, where to repeat? (was: Re: management gra… Ole Jacobsen
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