Re: Old directions in social media.

Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org> Fri, 08 January 2021 16:07 UTC

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From: Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org>
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2021 11:07:12 -0500
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Subject: Re: Old directions in social media.
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Tl;dr: Old man yells at cloud. Other old men yell back.

The thread starts here:

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/K0o3LACAN_xysoD8zlaqQgQN5rE/


On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 10:56 AM Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya2012@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Folks, I see heated discussions on this thread, but I missed its
> beginnings.
> I would appreciate if someone shortly describes what is being discussed
> and what has been learned so far?
>
> Behcet
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 4:53 PM Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> wrote:
>>     PHB> My experience of the OpenPGP BIS WG was that the attempt to use
>> github were
>>     PHB> one of the things that led to its failure.
>>
>> Salz, Rich <rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>     RS> That WG used GitLab, not GitHub.
>>
>> PHB,
>> I don't know what happened, or whether it was GitLab or GitHub.
>> I do know that it was at least five years ago, right?
>> I would appreciate some summary of what went wrong?
>> Was it really the tool?  Was it people using the tool wrong?
>> Were they fighting the tool?
>> Were they disagreeing (maybe even implicitely) on how to use the tool?
>>
>> I'm asking this to understand what a better tool would actually do.
>>
>> --
>> Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>   . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting
>> )
>>            Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide
>>
>>
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