RE: "We did not know" is not a good excuse

"Adrian Farrel" <adrian@olddog.co.uk> Thu, 07 April 2016 04:32 UTC

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From: "Adrian Farrel" <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
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Subject: RE: "We did not know" is not a good excuse
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Dave,

> > How do we move on so:
> ...
> > - this problem does not recur
> 
> What you probably /do/ mean is that further venue selections avoid
> places that effectively serve to exclude participation by various
> constituencies. 

What I mean, and I have no reason to doubt the good intentions and diligence of
the IAOC and Meetings Committee, is that we need to avoid situations where:

- the IAOC is unaware of the strength of feeling in the community on a selection
issue
- the IAOC is unaware of travel issues for a particular venue
- the community is surprised by the choice of venue
- the venue, host, sponsor, IAOC, IETF, are embarrassed by the reaction to a
venue announcement

It may be true that the community could provide a list of vetoed and approved
locations for the Meetings Committee to work with. That is a possible approach.
Another approach might be for the Meetings Committee to suggest some venues and
see what the community feels (this has happened before with a poll on some
venues that Ray sent to the community).

But I want to spec the problem, not engineer a solution. I trust the IAOC to
develop a solution to the problem that works with the other issues they have to
handle. And I trust them to bring the solution forward soon.

Adrian