Re: If categories of people are blocked by the U.S., should the IETF respond?

Matthew Kerwin <matthew@kerwin.net.au> Tue, 31 January 2017 05:36 UTC

Return-Path: <phluid61@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59553129DF7 for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 21:36:21 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.347
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.347 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J0y03uA7wOKL for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 21:36:19 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-io0-x22b.google.com (mail-io0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ADE97129967 for <ietf@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 21:36:19 -0800 (PST)
Received: by mail-io0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id v96so28047674ioi.0 for <ietf@ietf.org>; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 21:36:19 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=Tmz/Vq6IqXEKINZHAjXITKFjR81bvoydLCnoBzKgkek=; b=ZYmliCEpTCSjZvSdaJoVW8srTXaoiSsiHAtJo+vpRHe3ezJ4Bh0ZfshoYBaPvZKknH wt3DvY7QyciV3b+PL6Iw79WpW6nLtnHgD20tLVv3kuG9SDPQWade1ketqJCiiKx9pRIl Q+9vi7pjS8hgGGfMQDjDtMkqe3KHJDXgoyYlMDae3HLFYvXWdwPvXlTvWbMaIR4oqMMk xDgk5i8SaziYYRVGYeBb7IE90z2zszzXn7ZrIGkpZSQrbvpHReB0J/2Y7xuxwfWXsGRX z1NhRjXJCisKkLzHUnaOR9rawGePgfvN5y1Vdlvlz8RUpDg4n4RILX/VW7mTss5bfLrT pG7g==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Tmz/Vq6IqXEKINZHAjXITKFjR81bvoydLCnoBzKgkek=; b=qW+jIUeYy6Pse+u9Jars7D0VLP5Bn34QAOYcNCqvo1mAsbqLq99/kcvKPwdgDBNh7R CfNYP5MG4AxqBlyckq7aipxIwFUmZ6QUXQiBIpxid75/rJL7VghoE9v7hs4YhSDlCeDN PaHhqAiAFBnqEbYVOCQYyi8Y2jlVrRfUhiMrryW9KNVvIyuWZYU4QpzfrwOi3FP3yIew BNYevUnPg8dY6VykgH+pWUdau7bwxkwXNgpCgAbG3x469ZMgkFbzIT5rKYraCmrKScSI f8WlQ4ABr0C3oPcigH+fNNehhDaNsIFQlqSn8I7OvdPdXEnw2DYeVnym0g+Mv7q9MJ5l XNew==
X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXIpd1qkAZ921sstjqbSkNA/q30+Mhg3gHI+5SqNN0pZXtS7+GDBKvS8ped9b+2YyY/k2ssPTTHlHh31aA==
X-Received: by 10.107.59.193 with SMTP id i184mr21864979ioa.86.1485840979105; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 21:36:19 -0800 (PST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Sender: phluid61@gmail.com
Received: by 10.107.154.145 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 21:36:18 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <m24m0gc68g.wl-randy@psg.com>
References: <CAAUuzMQwk5v+3HA+KFrsCZfbNSXFpgBE0XdKfJWHgDss9-VkTw@mail.gmail.com> <CAHw9_iJ78ECZ5x8LsR53KhRFnbhi3gV7n8yzG07e1wbN-SG14Q@mail.gmail.com> <8f5ef9ac-b62b-863a-0a0e-f5d2b329de09@nostrum.com> <20170129134410.GA14422@gsp.org> <4D233FE8-6E84-446F-A8ED-604E4F7EAB99@piuha.net> <0d60ed80-2183-e329-05ad-e0cd7ab77ac1@cs.tcd.ie> <ebc650e4-3e42-5472-5c5f-ac5c0e5fc09f@dcrocker.net> <d7cc2ded-05ef-0f7e-0203-9a63a019b6fb@lounge.org> <m2r33kce5q.wl-randy@psg.com> <d06e669c-e8a1-fc0e-61a8-178435ec4554@lounge.org> <m24m0gc68g.wl-randy@psg.com>
From: Matthew Kerwin <matthew@kerwin.net.au>
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 15:36:18 +1000
X-Google-Sender-Auth: Uob4gC7cEes_zhEBdgpu0UuREhk
Message-ID: <CACweHNDDznQnoTUPpyNvE5gCkrVheJqgsJb_-PazU5=bzj68NA@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: If categories of people are blocked by the U.S., should the IETF respond?
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114f7f94c09fd505475d4f11
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/sC_Vk9OqQ0CrH0pO7yNAGpHVVJU>
Cc: "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ietf/>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 05:36:21 -0000

As relevant as anything: https://youtu.be/b97zJxKEqAk

On 31 January 2017 at 12:29, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:

> when you are in a hole, stop digging
>
>


-- 
  Matthew Kerwin
  http://matthew.kerwin.net.au/