Re: Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org

Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> Fri, 07 June 2013 16:11 UTC

Return-Path: <andy@yumaworks.com>
X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F7821F965B for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 09:11:48 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.56
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.56 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.416, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vwR0c6wprAnv for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 09:11:39 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-pd0-f171.google.com (mail-pd0-f171.google.com [209.85.192.171]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF8421F96EC for <ietf@ietf.org>; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 09:11:37 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-pd0-f171.google.com with SMTP id y14so2101082pdi.30 for <ietf@ietf.org>; Fri, 07 Jun 2013 09:11:36 -0700 (PDT)
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=EnUQTiHRHkQsK0vysUUuI8IIBjtsePsa6CYGwDmtA0A=; b=TqNdWUp4E4lbslICB/j7dpCWeefQ5gym5V9GgeEW0wNrcZLH7i0uAlspBHTR25Jfj7 O1Abx8MAlAKE3mC/HCmNCSFp1BneulmcsaX+E/UYXDkP8u9TPnsZeqbyCEyGvNaVlj8V yZ3UjFO8JavHN31QP7qfOfIO2DbfOfMk3llWLHBaywqfpH0zoiQKwNFQSv+jw5Wjp+vC CE84GgiNS4A3B58HlLd6QhcU/tDBdCafOytMFBoP4LyA8/exyX+Rknmr9SunTkBnT5/k wpOZqa1c1z/afiafuuZtI6dzMbOl3ticEkZ1MKgyv8ccLdx66i7W9tex1eQuZydqej8D 1iZw==
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Received: by 10.66.234.226 with SMTP id uh2mr1340125pac.38.1370621496679; Fri, 07 Jun 2013 09:11:36 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.70.87.103 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 09:11:36 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B6307751CA801@mbx-01.win.nominum.com>
References: <201306070453.r574r3Wt010088@rotala.raleigh.ibm.com> <CADnDZ89FjyPtvJQSqY+kmX+1KYkc0jo1mRpOgkfcEnTH6Vbg6A@mail.gmail.com> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B6307751CA462@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <201306071449.r57EnN5N008971@cichlid.raleigh.ibm.com> <CABCOCHSkLj0409hyeqKNdomOdrScYypi_7a1xWqMEUV9eTPuCw@mail.gmail.com> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B6307751CA801@mbx-01.win.nominum.com>
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 09:11:36 -0700
Message-ID: <CABCOCHR+5M06ToW4jLzALv+FuNHiVbytCGEgkQ3JvG4aUBty=w@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org
From: Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com>
To: Ted Lemon <Ted.Lemon@nominum.com>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="047d7b15a4a16e71e804de92af83"
X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnd2tM/v3e88xCONPUZmXVe2ftRxvAjzYRrYfZZsoYoD5KPjYp7CV1DU6z5mmcWnjHEuRIC
Cc: Thomas Narten <narten@us.ibm.com>, "<ietf@ietf.org>" <ietf@ietf.org>
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 16:11:50 -0000

On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Ted Lemon <Ted.Lemon@nominum.com> wrote:

>  On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:48 AM, Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> wrote:
>
>  So why not move the signal?
>  Put IETF Last Call mail on last-call@ietf.org and leave this list for
> everything else.
>
>
> The discussion still has to happen somewhere.   I certainly am not
> restricting my meaningful participation in last calls, but even in that
> case it is important to be restrained and not get into long fruitless
> discussions, which, I am afraid, I am wont to do.
>
>

Some people consider the last call discussions to be signal
and the rest (vast majority) of discussions to be noise.
They would subscribe to a last-call mailing list, but not this one.


Andy