Re: Diversity of candidates was Re: NomCom 2020 Announcement of Selections

Michael StJohns <> Tue, 26 January 2021 20:50 UTC

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Subject: Re: Diversity of candidates was Re: NomCom 2020 Announcement of Selections
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On 1/26/2021 2:22 PM, Jay Daley wrote:
>> On 26/01/2021, at 7:39 PM, Benjamin Kaduk < 
>> <>> wrote:
>> I think that "the appropriate people" was meant to refer to the managers
>> that approve travel+time to attend/contribute to the IETF, not the people
>> actually doing the contributing.  So the conversation might go something
>> like "hi, we see you send a lot of smart people to the IETF; thank you!
>> However, the IETF is looking at its diversity numbers, and it seems that
>> the distribution of people you send to the IETF is different from your
>> overall distribution of staff.  Can you think of ways to make the
>> distribution of people you send to IETF more closely match your overall
>> staff distribtion, so that the IETF in turn can more closely match the
>> overall population?"
> That is exactly how I would do it.
> Jay

Actually, I'd probably approach C or S suite folk at the larger 
companies for the same reason I didn't suggest approaching the smaller 
companies:  Basically, if you've got a company population of 5-10K or 
more and are sending 20-30 people, there's a good chance that if asked 
nicely, we might get a few others from that company of different 
demographics, especially if the C or S folk influence company policy.   
Approaching a manager or even a manager of managers is unlikely to 
result in many additions or changes as they're probably already sending 
what they can afford (budget and time wise) based on the goals of their 
part of the organization.  Ditto for smaller companies.

I like the restatement Ben made above.