Re: Registration details for IETF 108

Randy Bush <> Fri, 05 June 2020 21:08 UTC

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> I saw a discussion on a WG list yesterday which I would characterise as
> In person meeting; Cost thousands; Timing chosen to suit others
> Virtual meeting; Cost hundreds; Timing chosen to suit others
> Virtual interim; Cost negligible; Timing chosen to suit us

i am constantly amused that the internet engineering task force tries
to replicate in-person meetings as verbatim as possible.  it's as if
the ietf has yet to discover the internet.  ever read sci-fi where a
culture replicates ancient rituals for which they do not even remember
the reasons?

> which makes me wonder if there will be an increase in requests for
> Virtual interim, And if they are constrained, will there be an
> increase in Webex?

for example, a number of us have stood up jitsi servers.  and there are, free zoom, et alia, of course.  we even hold
informal ad hoc technical conversations, open cafes, ... without asking
the ruling ietf llc <gasp!>.

the world is changing, whether we like it, or it fits our beloved well
controlled models, or not.