Re: How IETF treats contributors

Dean Anderson <dean@av8.com> Mon, 30 August 2004 21:28 UTC

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Subject: Re: How IETF treats contributors
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On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, Ted Hardie wrote:

 
>        Variations on the idea of using a DNS record to check the legitimacy
>        of an email address have occurred multiple times. The earliest known
>        work is [Vixie]; others include [RMX], [SPF] and [CallerID].

But of course, this is wrong and is, in part, the basis of Hadmut's
complaint.

I've no doubt that Vixie is happy with this (as he reports), having
obtained credit that isn't due to him.  Apparently, no one bothered to
actually read the message attributed to [Vixie], which the draft (wrongly)
claims is the earliest known work:

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-marid-core-03.txt

http://ops.ietf.org/lists/namedroppers/namedroppers.2002/msg00658.html

The idea came from David Green, and Vixie says it originated from Jim 
Miller in 1998.  Vixie had little or nothing to do with it. Why the draft 
claims the earliest known work is due to Vixie is unclear.

		--Dean

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    * To: namedroppers@ops.ietf.org
    * Subject: Re: Mail-Transmitter RR
    * From: Paul Vixie <paul@vix.com>
    * Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2002 18:16:37 -0700
    * In-reply-to: Message from David Green <green@couchpotato.net> of 
"Sat, 01 Jun 2002 20:49:48 
EDT."<Pine.LNX.4.44.0206012045470.8349-200000@david.couchpotato.net>


> I'm sorry if this is off-topic, but I couldn't find a working group that 
> is working on dealing with spam, so this is the closest match I could 
> find. I know this is in no way related to IPv6 or anything else you guys 
> are working on, but it is an idea I had involving the addition of a RR 
> type. If this is not the right place to be sending this, any pointers to 
> other working groups/forums would be greatly appreciated. And I appreciate 
> all of the hard work you guys are doing... My idea is attached (domauth.txt)

In 1998, Jim Miller suggested this.  A few weeks ago, I wrote the 
following.  Comments are welcome.

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