Re: IAB statement on the NETmundial Initiative

Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> Thu, 04 December 2014 20:07 UTC

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Subject: Re: IAB statement on the NETmundial Initiative
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Just to be clear, what I am unclear about is the Netmundial Initiative and
in particular the role of this proposed council.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com>
wrote:

> I am a little confused by this proposal.
>
> The statement of principles seems relatively unobjectionable. But
> there seems to be rather less information on specific objectives and
> virtually none on how those objectives would be achieved.
>
> There is a proposal for a council but no information on how the
> members are to be appointed or what the source or scope of their
> authority will be.
>
> There are three questions of power: How did you get it? Whose
> interests do you serve when you use it? and How do we get rid of you?
> I don't see answers to any of those questions in the documents
> provided.
>