Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33BB21295A0 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 01:20:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yWtrD9gtsDmq for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 01:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pg0-x233.google.com (mail-pg0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c05::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09CC71294D4 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 01:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-pg0-x233.google.com with SMTP id f188so89538943pgc.3 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 01:20:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=jx1q9wf/il8YLt/ltn4ANPd0bJyIITIrmvGf4CtirB8=; b=DlMq3yRTamQ0pvwVp7MquRZcsSMrX6Rv6AEtrHpmsE35Lp0j/8G6VW9vPwwjJ7zH3I eZJoH8WRuR5EN1ENzRcT5VrAOdXMBk3SpLKNabTyRSyy/Y2LGN5qXLSNPJwUa9TlIdSW 8j3WooBgkhdzEUPnG64gSGtHhNMCo3Y0EyYAcEoNNa3XDcvw4pqGjKb+EOL/LMSezJLZ xCnjDnH3hU3sX5BEJhpHWLTzoo9StwTTY7Z4Q1rF+FyGDWrOQz4fgV2djqjN+bSQa354 GfEdf4idnO9A6udY+RsFHISfl7h1AzYDjA7MHjTT4DT5juXJzao4fQn1Aksa6ypoFFR7 VVgQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=jx1q9wf/il8YLt/ltn4ANPd0bJyIITIrmvGf4CtirB8=; b=YAg92GrUqTYXs9JywrjP1LNX+uN3H9xi0ujBi9OWwj5DKk+IKjNr/PwcHe2mVtuTIY /qHZvKIIXzlcRbTFVWRBSQAR5Cke500auxqE5dy66szbMegjcilCa+NTxQbes9sZ2w/F OyTjNT5X2t227z8OYzb1KMQ40HGN/WZw3Z5OGnOUeklOVbqQ4y4M6+/FsV/+XvNyX7bq VLzrTT0C08xGd+tenrEi+9MTWLDg3WKBtiD/Acs1IZCV0CeJllxkoVU5z4pTlMD4i433 RXgkecJuCDlWjzVzQiP7EMq3wEJtE2/5r+rMTQtf38BWm2lh0cntjMX6LP9ttJ0Uq4hI /lIg== X-Gm-Message-State: ABUngve3ct0douSJVT9xk08fuoaEaVMfE6priSb3lO+cfDfGhw0xupktu7THNxxDoUUfpQ== X-Received: by 10.98.10.3 with SMTP id s3mr3396560pfi.78.1479374401628; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 01:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.20.100.239] ([58.120.104.2]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q145sm4998183pfq.22.2016.11.17.01.19.59 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 17 Nov 2016 01:20:01 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.1 \(3251\)) Subject: Re: IETF network incremental plan From: Yoav Nir In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 18:19:57 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <167678FE-0EBE-4868-BF2B-DF48E6C6945E@gmail.com> References: <0C5BCD32-2D2A-42B9-8DEA-A1E1A527A8BB@consulintel.es> <582d06eb.098d620a.b4db8.4495@mx.google.com> To: jordi.palet@consulintel.es X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3251) Archived-At: Cc: IETF discussion list X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF-Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 09:20:03 -0000 > On 17 Nov 2016, at 10:39, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ = wrote: >=20 > That=E2=80=99s why at the time being, I=E2=80=99m insisting in looking = into the real world: >=20 > The real world expects that we have dual stack (private IPv4 + GUA = IPv6) in the LANs. I think it would be interesting to have an ietf-realworld SSID with RFC = 1918 IPv4 and routable IPv6. Whether that can or should be the default =E2=80=98ietf=E2=80=99 I = don=E2=80=99t know, but I can certainly prioritize one network or = another on both my devices. Yoav