Re: "why I quit writing internet standards"

Scott Kitterman <> Sun, 20 April 2014 21:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: "why I quit writing internet standards"
From: Scott Kitterman <>
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 17:30:39 -0400
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On April 20, 2014 2:18:08 PM EDT, Dave Crocker <> wrote:
>On 4/20/2014 10:15 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> Right.  The alternate defense against a WG charter that allowed for
>> more than wordsmithing was to insist that proponents of a working
>group go do
>> the work of a working group to evaluate the protocol and figure out
>if it
>> needed any changes before such a working group would be chartered.
>Defense is an interest choice of words.  It tends to imply an
>to start a working group even when there is no work known to be needed.
>Working groups are expensive.  The costs they incur are justified only 
>when there is known to be a need.
>Requiring clear statements about the need is not 'defensive'; it is 
>merely being professional and responsible.

That's one theory. Considering the current state of play in which DMARC isn't even being submitted to the IETF, the alternative theory that the developers of DMARC were not interested in anything other than a rubber stamp approval from the IETF seems to me to be much more consistent with the available information. 

I think I'm done with this argument. 

Scott K