Re: tone policing

"Bron Gondwana" <brong@fastmailteam.com> Thu, 12 September 2019 03:53 UTC

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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 13:53:33 +1000
From: "Bron Gondwana" <brong@fastmailteam.com>
To: "Stephen Farrell" <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>, ietf@ietf.org
Subject: Re: tone policing
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On Tue, Sep 10, 2019, at 09:27, Stephen Farrell wrote:
> 
> I was thinking it'd be hard to provide good examples,
> but you've done that excellently.
> 
> To whatever extent you're not proud of that 2011 mail,
> I think this 2019 mail repairs lots. A fine example
> that we can all live and learn, and to follow.

Yeah, there's plenty from around those years that I cringe when reading back over. Honestly I probably wouldn't have come to the IETF at all after that if it hadn't been for Pete Resnick at Inbox Love in 2014 (that was a weird conference) talking about how the IETF wasn't as bad as the reputation I'd heard - and that things COULD be achieved there still.

 I don't even mind arguing and having to defend technical decisions, but I had the impression back in 2014 that the IETF was 100% arguing and that no effective work could get done here - so had disengaged.

 Then Alexey Melnikov came to a CalConnect in 2016 and was welcoming about joining IETF, and so here I am!

Bron.

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