RE: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Paradigm
John E Drake <jdrake@juniper.net> Wed, 15 August 2012 14:23 UTC
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Subject: RE: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Paradigm
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AB, I couldn't answer this until I get an answer to my original question regarding the document's purpose. I also have a related question, viz, is there a plan of some sort of which this document is a component, or is the document simply a one-off? Thanks, John Sent from my iPhone From: Abdussalam Baryun [mailto:abdussalambaryun@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 6:57 AM To: John E Drake Cc: ietf; iab@iab.org Subject: Re: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Paradigm John, Could you suggest a solution to this issue or an additional statements to the document, I think then the document may need amendment, to consider your advise/experience. AB On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 2:46 PM, John E Drake <jdrake@juniper.net<mailto:jdrake@juniper.net>> wrote: AB, I don't think the principles articulated in this document will come as a surprise to any SDO with which the IETF interacts and I don't think this document will prevent another SDO from acting badly wrt the IETF if it so chooses. Also, bear in mind that 'acting badly' is entirely subjective. For example, if you were to ask the ITU leadership if they 'acted badly' during the MPLS-TP imbroglio, I think they would counter that it was the IETF that 'acted badly'. In fact, I have seen them say exactly this. And lest we forget, we had a much more comprehensive agreement in place for MPLS-TP. Thanks, John Sent from my iPhone From: Abdussalam Baryun [mailto:abdussalambaryun@gmail.com<mailto:abdussalambaryun@gmail.com>] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 6:29 AM To: John E Drake Cc: ietf Subject: Re: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Paradigm Hi John, >Does this document actually have a purpose, and if so, what is it? IMO the document introduces important statements (purpose and objectives) so that other organisations and SDOs recognise while interacting with IETF. It may look simple or known, but necessary for IETF future cooperations. I agree that your question is very important and that the best person to answer is the Chair of IETF or IAB. AB
- Re: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Pa… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Pa… Paul Hoffman
- FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Pa… John E Drake
- Re: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standard… Eliot Lear
- Re: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standard… Brian E Carpenter
- RE: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standard… John E Drake
- RE: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standard… John E Drake
- Re: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Pa… Hannes Tschofenig
- RE: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Pa… John E Drake
- Re: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standard… Eliot Lear
- Re: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standard… Marie-France Berny
- Re: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standard… Marie-France Berny
- RE: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standard… John E Drake
- Re: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standard… Abdussalam Baryun
- RE: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standard… John E Drake
- Re: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standard… Abdussalam Baryun
- RE: FW: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standard… John E Drake
- Re: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Pa… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Pa… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Pa… SM
- RE: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Pa… John E Drake
- Re: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Pa… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Pa… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Affirmation of the Modern Global Standards Pa… Hannes Tschofenig