Re: Interim meetings - changing the way we work

Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> Thu, 26 February 2015 22:34 UTC

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On 2/26/2015 5:23 PM, Thomas D. Nadeau wrote:
> Those subteams go off on their own for weeks at a time and iterate as needed. And they work without all of the overhead of a formal meeting. They may or may not discuss progress on the list until issues come up.

There's nothing wrong/out of process with this. The key process
requirement is that they do review & discuss changes with the WG at some
point (which sometimes *is* sometimes a challenge to ensure that it
happens), and certainly no later than when the changes are published. 

Lou