RE: Varying meeting venue -- why?
Hadriel Kaplan <HKaplan@acmepacket.com> Fri, 20 August 2010 13:53 UTC
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From: Hadriel Kaplan <HKaplan@acmepacket.com>
To: "John R. Levine" <johnl@iecc.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 09:54:03 -0400
Subject: RE: Varying meeting venue -- why?
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It was a joke. I was being sarcastic that if train service was sufficient for Maastricht, then bus service should suffice as well. (and yes I've been to Ithaca/Cornell but I drove there) -hadriel > -----Original Message----- > From: John R. Levine [mailto:johnl@iecc.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 6:41 PM > To: Hadriel Kaplan > Cc: ietf@ietf.org > Subject: RE: Varying meeting venue -- why? > > > If someone offered to sponsor a meeting there, I bet the IETF would > > consider it. First, it actually has an airport, and second > there is > > alternative public transportation: bus service from Syracuse, > > Rochester, Buffalo, etc. That should fit right in with Maastricht. > > I get the strong impression you've never been to Ithaca. If > you can't get a spot on one of the small planes that flies to > the Ithaca airport you will find that it is so slow and > painful to get here from the airpots in Syracuse, Rochester, > Binghamton, Elmira, or Buffalo that it's easier to fly into > NYC and take the five hour bus trip from there. One time I > rented a car in Ithaca and dropped it off in Rochester two > hours later, paying a drop fee, because that was far easier > and cheaper than any alternative. > > It's a swell place to live, but it'd be miserable for a large > meeting. > It's not Maastricht, even after Maastricht gets rid of the > drug tourism. > > R's, > John >
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