Re: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board
TSG <tglassey@earthlink.net> Thu, 19 February 2009 02:05 UTC
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Subject: Re: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board
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Steven M. Bellovin wrote: > On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:17:39 -0800 > "Lawrence Rosen" <lrosen@rosenlaw.com> wrote: > > > >>> Rather than a standing board (which was what I thought you had >>> intended), >>> >> [LR:] I had indeed intended a standing board, and still do. Why have >> to agitate and recruit an expert team over every question, when a >> simple question referred to an IPR Advisory Board for an answer will >> probably suffice? But like most of your points in this paragraph, >> it's open for discussion.... >> >> > The advantage of a per-WG board is that members would likely have > familiarity with the technology and history of the field. The > advantage of a standing board is familiarity with patents and > procedures. Pick it... > Patents and Procedures. > > >> [LR:] Be very careful. No attorney who can be deemed to speak on >> behalf of IETF regarding patents should be there opining IETF's >> opinion about actual patents. Instead, I recommend that we have an >> invited (and probably open) selection of other attorneys who are >> willing to sign up and actually participate as individuals, not >> representing specific clients and speaking with appropriate liability >> caveats. For process purposes, however, the IPR Advisory Board can >> probably be chaired by an IETF patent counsel just to make sure >> everyone behaves.... We'll have to see how many brave attorneys are >> actually willing to participate in the entire IETF community's >> behalf, but if W3C is an example, we'll find lots of willing >> attorneys. :-) >> > > I wonder -- the IETF has been known to be hostile to lawyers... > > >>> Anyway -- I think this is a promising suggestion, and not >>> inconsistent with IETF practice or policy. But a fully-fleshed out >>> I-D -- one that addresses the membership and the alternatives -- is >>> probably needed, if only as a matter of form. >>> >> [LR:] Ahhhhh yes, form. :-) Does anyone else volunteer? Do we have a >> second? >> > > I'll participate, but I sure don't have the cycles to write anything, > nor am I likely to be at very many IETF meetings for the PAG WG or even > the PAG bar bof... > > > --Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > >
- Re: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board Noel Chiappa
- RE: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board Noel Chiappa
- RE: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board Lawrence Rosen
- Re: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board Noel Chiappa
- Re: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board Stephen Farrell
- Re: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board Steven M. Bellovin
- RE: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board Lawrence Rosen
- Re: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board Steven M. Bellovin
- Re: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board Ted Hardie
- Re: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board Paul Hoffman
- RE: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board Lawrence Rosen
- Re: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board TSG
- Re: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board Steven M. Bellovin
- RE: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board Hallam-Baker, Phillip
- Re: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board TSG
- Re: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board Theodore Tso
- Re: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board Theodore Tso
- RE: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board Christian Huitema
- Re: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board Steven M. Bellovin
- Re: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board John Levine
- Re: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board ned+ietf
- Re: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board Stephan Wenger
- RE: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board Lawrence Rosen
- RE: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board Hallam-Baker, Phillip