Re: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board

TSG <tglassey@earthlink.net> Thu, 19 February 2009 02:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: Proposal to create IETF IPR Advisory Board
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Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:17:39 -0800
> "Lawrence Rosen" <lrosen@rosenlaw.com> wrote:
>
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>   
>>> Rather than a standing board (which was what I thought you had
>>> intended), 
>>>       
>> [LR:] I had indeed intended a standing board, and still do. Why have
>> to agitate and recruit an expert team over every question, when a
>> simple question referred to an IPR Advisory Board for an answer will
>> probably suffice? But like most of your points in this paragraph,
>> it's open for discussion....
>>
>>     
> The advantage of a per-WG board is that members would likely have
> familiarity with the technology and history of the field.  The
> advantage of a standing board is familiarity with patents and
> procedures.  Pick it...
>   
Patents and Procedures.
>  
>   
>> [LR:] Be very careful. No attorney who can be deemed to speak on
>> behalf of IETF regarding patents should be there opining IETF's
>> opinion about actual patents. Instead, I recommend that we have an
>> invited (and probably open) selection of other attorneys who are
>> willing to sign up and actually participate as individuals, not
>> representing specific clients and speaking with appropriate liability
>> caveats. For process purposes, however, the IPR Advisory Board can
>> probably be chaired by an IETF patent counsel just to make sure
>> everyone behaves.... We'll have to see how many brave attorneys are
>> actually willing to participate in the entire IETF community's
>> behalf, but if W3C is an example, we'll find lots of willing
>> attorneys. :-)
>>     
>
> I wonder -- the IETF has been known to be hostile to lawyers... 
>
>   
>>> Anyway -- I think this is a promising suggestion, and not
>>> inconsistent with IETF practice or policy.  But a fully-fleshed out
>>> I-D -- one that addresses the membership and the alternatives -- is
>>> probably needed, if only as a matter of form.
>>>       
>> [LR:] Ahhhhh yes, form. :-) Does anyone else volunteer? Do we have a
>> second?
>>     
>
> I'll participate, but I sure don't have the cycles to write anything,
> nor am I likely to be at very many IETF meetings for the PAG WG or even
> the PAG bar bof...
>
>
> 		--Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb
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