Re: Thinking laterally

Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> Fri, 27 February 2015 18:10 UTC

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Subject: Re: Thinking laterally
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On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Mary Barnes <mary.h.barnes@gmail.com>
wrote:

> We already have video for sessions that use Meetecho.  While not perfect,
> it's a great way to participate remotely.   And, it uses protocols that we
> have developed and are developing in IETF.
>
> Hopefully, meeting minutes for all the sessions that use Meetcho have
> links to the recordings.  If not, you can find them here:
> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/91/remote-participation.html#Meetecho
> I've gone back to the recordings when prepare meeting minutes.
>
> Just as a note, I am not commenting either way on the charging thing.  I
> see the obvious advantage but I also think there's a number of
> disadvantages.  Per my comment earlier about meeting minutes, wouldn't it
> be a real turnoff if someone was wanting to catch-up with a WG, but had to
> pay to see the corresponding video recording from a meeting?
>
> Regards,
> Mary.
>
>
The idea was to provide a way for me as a remote participant to guarantee
that the video is there.

I was not suggesting paywalling it. More a sponsorship sort of model. If I
am attending a session remotely and it is core to my work I am going to
kick in the cash in case nobody else does.

I don't want it paywalled even if I am paying though.