Re: Hum theatre

Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com> Thu, 07 November 2013 16:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: Hum theatre
From: Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com>
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
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What I heard, to be clear, was primarily a call to action, of mostly
rhetorical (in the formal sense, look it up) effect.  There’s nothing
whatsoever wrong with that.  Few useful human actions are accomplished
without some rhetoric to get things moving.  That includes engineering
actions.

Also, a very useful expression of a sentiment that might be expressed as
“more encryption is good, let’s not let the perfect be the enemy of the
good”, and another that said “there’s going to be a lot of controversy
around end-to-end issues”.

I’m disappointed by this nitpicking over what I found a rather inspiring
moment.


On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:

> > But Russ didn't ask for a "feeling". Russ said that he was asking about
> > consensus, and Tim heard that the result of those hums *were* the IETF
> > coming to consensus.
>
> i took it as the consensus of the *room*, and it would be taken to the
> lists to be nibbled to death by ducks.
>
> randy
>