Re: RIM patents using a mime body in a message (and ignores IETF IPR rules)

[Scott Brim <[e-mail]>]

Simon Josefsson allegedly wrote on 11/30/2009 10:11 AM:
> There is no requirement in the IETF process for organizations to
> disclose patents as far as I can see.  The current approach of only
> having people participate, and disclose patents, in the IETF is easy to
> work around by having two persons in an organization doing different
> things: one works on specifying and standardizing technology, and the
> other is working on patenting the technology.

Simon, from rfc3979:

   l. "Reasonably and personally known": means something an individual
      knows personally or, because of the job the individual holds,
      would reasonably be expected to know.  This wording is used to
      indicate that an organization cannot purposely keep an individual
      in the dark about patents or patent applications just to avoid the
      disclosure requirement.  But this requirement should not be
      interpreted as requiring the IETF Contributor or participant (or
      his or her represented organization, if any) to perform a patent
      search to find applicable IPR.