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Re: Terminology discussion threads

Jen Linkova <furry13@gmail.com> Sat, 15 August 2020 06:57 UTC

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From: Jen Linkova <furry13@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 16:56:53 +1000
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Subject: Re: Terminology discussion threads
To: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>
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On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 5:18 AM Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu> wrote:
>  Rather, the departure of many
> prominent IETF contributors from the membership list of ietf@ietf.org has
> placed us in a (or, perhaps, excacerbated an existing) situation where the
> membership of what is nominally the "general IETF discussion list" is not
> representative of the IETF community.  As someone who is, at times, charged
> with assessing IETF consensus, I feel that this calls into question the
> utility of the ietf@ietf.org list for determining consensus.  Personally, I
> now have significant doubts that the results of discussion on ietf@ietf.org
> will reflect IETF consensus.

Some people who care about IETF have left the list. Some people
apparently started blocking emails from other participants (which
increases the risk of pure technical, protocol development discussions
to happen in isolated bubbles of life-minded people).

It's very sad to see how, paradoxically, the discussion about
inclusiveness and diversity ended up being harmful for diversity and
inclusiveness at IETF.

-- 
SY, Jen Linkova aka Furry

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