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Re: Agenda experiment for IETF 103 in November in Bangkok

Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> Wed, 16 May 2018 18:33 UTC

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Subject: Re: Agenda experiment for IETF 103 in November in Bangkok
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For those of us with wives and/or children, weekends are an issue. In
particular being away two weekends in a row is a serious issue.

Since the meeting has to start on a Monday at the very latest, travel on
Sunday is inevitable and often it is going to be Saturday as well just to
be sentient 9am Monday morning. So the meeting creep into the prior weekend
is not much of an issue for me.

Meeting creep into the following weekend is. Very often, I have to book
flights before the agenda is published. So I will often have booked to
leave Friday morning before I even know if there is a meeting I might want
to attend.


Killing Friday meetings is all good as far as I am concerned. If I wanted
to meet with people informally, I would probably hold the pre-meeting on
the previous Friday in preference to the following one. And that is what I
have seen a lot of folk do in fact.

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