Re: How to get diversity of nominees was Re: Diversity of candidates was Re: NomCom 2020 Announcement of Selections

Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 28 January 2021 00:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: How to get diversity of nominees was Re: Diversity of candidates was Re: NomCom 2020 Announcement of Selections
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 16:05:18 -0800
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So voila! IPv4 has existed more than ten years, so we don’t need it any more... Also DNS, DHCP, TCP, Ethernet, SMTP - wow, that rule really clears the deck. And heck - even IETF chairs produce internet drafts.

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> On Jan 27, 2021, at 10:35 AM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On 27-Jan-21 22:47, tom petch wrote:
> ...
>> One step forward would be to stop WG Chairs authoring I-D. 
> 
> That would certainly have stopped me from ever being a WG Chair.
> 
> On 28-Jan-21 05:10, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:
> ...> Also, I think that WGs lasting 10+ years should be sanctioned, why do we need them?
> 
> For protocols needing continuous maintenance and/or operational enhancement.
> 
>    Brian
>