Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy
Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Thu, 09 January 2020 14:44 UTC
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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2020 06:43:47 -0800
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Subject: Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy
To: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
Cc: Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>, IAB Chair <iab-chair@iab.org>, "iab@iab.org IAB" <iab@iab.org>, IETF discussion list <ietf@ietf.org>, architecture-discuss@ietf.org
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On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 6:29 AM John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> wrote: > > > --On Thursday, January 9, 2020 13:14 +0000 Stewart Bryant > <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> On 8 Jan 2020, at 23:14, IAB Chair <iab-chair@iab.org> wrote: > >> > >> The IAB requires that all Covered Individuals disclose their > >> main employment, sponsorship, consulting customer, or other > >> sources of income when joining the IAB or whenever there are > >> updates. > > > Is this to be a public or a private register of interests? > > Stewart's question is important for what may be an additional > reason. There is a fairly long history of IAB members who often > show up as "independent" but who are full-time consultants with > multiple clients (as distinct from those who serve in > consulting, rather than employee, roles but with one principal > client). They may have, in the words of the draft, no "main > employment, sponsorship, consulting customer, ...". In those > situations, it isn't terribly unusual for consulting agreements > to contain requirements that the relationship not be disclosed > by either party without mutual consent. I've had little trouble > getting consent when there is a substantive reason that doesn't > threaten the reasons for the confidentiality provision and there > are provisions to keep the information from becoming generally > known, but completely public disclosures would probably not fly. > > I'd assume that someone working for, or a principal of, a > stealth startup might face similar constraints. > > While I applaud the IAB's coming to grips with this issue, let's > be sure we don't do anything that limits the diversity or range > of skills and perspectives of people who can serve on the IAB > as an accidental side-effect of a well-intentioned policy. > This seems like an important point. In addition, it's not clear to me as I read this text how I am supposed to read "main.... or other sources of income". Surely the intention is not that people disclose all other sources of income. -Ekr > john > > > _______________________________________________ > Architecture-discuss mailing list > Architecture-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/architecture-discuss >
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- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Stewart Bryant
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy John C Klensin
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Eric Rescorla
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Stewart Bryant
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Alvaro Retana
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- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Salz, Rich
- Re: Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Salz, Rich
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Joe Touch
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Eric Rescorla
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Ben Campbell
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Livingood, Jason
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- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Ben Campbell
- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Scott O. Bradner
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- Re: [arch-d] Draft IAB conflict of interest policy Marc Blanchet
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