From: "Klaas Wierenga (kwiereng)" <kwiereng@cisco.com>
To: Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: it's been a while since we discussed the use of PowerPoint in
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On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:41, Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com> wrote:

> For what we use it for, powerpoint is actually useful.
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> Most cases what is put up on slides is examples. And I find it much
> easier to follow an example that is written down than one that is
> read.
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> The other point that is overlooked by the powerpoint haters is that
> the principal value is that it rescues incompetent speakers. There are
> some people who are good speakers at IETF but the speaking
> qualification is only an opinion and a keyboard. Being able to
> organize a logical series of thoughts does not come into it.
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> I am more than happy to present without slides. The reason I write
> them is that the meeting organizers DEMAND them. And they are quite
> right to do that because I have two speaking modes one of which is
> PowerPoint and the other is 'TED talk'.
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> Guess which one has the technical content.

yes, and it is also very useful for those that may not be able to understan=
d you well because of either your lack of coherence, your accent or their l=
ack of understanding to have a visual aid.

Klaas=