Re: [decade] FW: Last Call: <draft-farrell-decade-ni-07.txt> (Naming Things with Hashes) to Proposed Standard

"Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp> Wed, 13 June 2012 06:29 UTC

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Subject: Re: [decade] FW: Last Call: <draft-farrell-decade-ni-07.txt> (Naming Things with Hashes) to Proposed Standard
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Hello Stephen,

On 2012/06/12 20:08, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>
> So would it work to add this:
>
> "
>     Note that relative ni URIs can occur, for example as shown in
>     Figure 5.  In such cases, user agents MUST construct the absolute URI
>     as they would in the case of an HTTP URL, that is, in the example
>     shown the absolute URI for "this third document" would be
>     "ni://example.com/sha-256-128;...".

This looks fine, except that it contains a MUST when it can just refer 
to RFC 3986. So I would suggest the following text:

    Note that relative ni URIs can occur. In such cases, the algorithm
    in Section 5 of RFC 3986 applies. As an example, in Figure 5, the
    absolute URI for "this third document" is
    "ni://example.com/sha-256-128;...".



>       <html>
>        <head>
>          <title>ni: relative URI test</title>
>          <base href="ni://example.com">
>        </head>
>
>        <body>
>          <p>Please check<a href="sha-256;f4OxZX...">this document</a>.
>            And<a href="sha-256;UyaQV...">this other document</a>.
>            And<a href="sha-256-128;...">this third document</a>.
>          </p>
>        </body>
>       </html>
>
>                  Figure 5: Example HTML with relative ni URI
>
> "
>
> Better suggestions welcome.
> Ta,

I tried to look "Ta" up on the Web, but there were just too many 
potential explanations. What are you using it for?


Regards,   Martin.

> S.