RE: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrative Procedures
John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Wed, 09 April 2008 19:04 UTC
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From: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
To: Ed Juskevicius <edj@nortel.com>
Subject: RE: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrative Procedures
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--On Wednesday, 09 April, 2008 13:50 -0400 Ed Juskevicius <edj@nortel.com> wrote: > John, you wrote: > >> Then recommend to the community that the Trust Agreement be >> changed. > > The Trustees are not talking about changing the terms of the > Trust Agreement, so this should not be necessary. Good. But I was just trying to suggest, following what I thought I saw in Marshall's note, that, if the Trust Agreement is defective, one could try to change it. The other option is to conform to it. Ignoring it and adopting procedures or polices inconsistent with it --even if one believes those policies will never be triggered-- is a non-starter. >> I am worried about the IAOC and/or Trustees adopting >> procedures that are inconsistent with the Trust Agreement. > > Me too! It is not the intention of the Trustees to adopt > procedures that are inconsistent with the Trust Agreement. > >> if anything is going to be said, it needs to be consistent >> with the Trust Agreement _and_ reflect the desires and intent >> of the community. > > I agree. I think we are in synch. john _______________________________________________ IETF mailing list IETF@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
- Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrative P… Ray Pelletier
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… John C Klensin
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… Russ Housley
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… John C Klensin
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… Leslie Daigle
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… Russ Housley
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… Fred Baker
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… Ray Pelletier
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… John C Klensin
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… Ray Pelletier
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… Soininen Jonne (NSN FI/Espoo)
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… Leslie Daigle
- RE: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… Ed Juskevicius
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… Russ Housley
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… Fred Baker
- RE: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… John C Klensin
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… John C Klensin
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… John C Klensin
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… Marshall Eubanks
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… John C Klensin
- RE: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… Ed Juskevicius
- RE: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… John C Klensin
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… Ray Pelletier
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… Ted Hardie
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… John C Klensin
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… Marshall Eubanks
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… Stephan Wenger
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… Fred Baker
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… Ray Pelletier
- Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrati… TS Glassey