Re: Revisiting - Re: Now: Next Generation Domains and DNS -- Was: Re: No More Central Authority: Not NSI/ICAN! Not ORSC!
"Stephen Sprunk" <ssprunk@cisco.com> Tue, 06 August 2002 20:23 UTC
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From: Stephen Sprunk <ssprunk@cisco.com>
To: Internet Technical Community <ietf@ietf.org>, "Mohsen BANAN"@mail.intra.cnri.reston.va, public@mohsen.banan.1.byname.net
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Subject: Re: Revisiting - Re: Now: Next Generation Domains and DNS -- Was: Re: No More Central Authority: Not NSI/ICAN! Not ORSC!
Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 15:13:58 -0500
Organization: Cisco Systems, Inc.
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Thus spake <"Mohsen BANAN"@mail.intra.cnri.reston.va>; <public@mohsen.banan.1.byname.net> > Good! > > After many years, the Internet technical > community (save ICANN and IETF cult's chiefs) > has now arrived to the general recognition > that the concept of parallel root server clusters > are in fact practical, workable, stable and democratic. The "Internet technical community" has decided no such thing. Perhaps having multiple roots *with identical information* would be stable and workable, but that requirement inherently negates the motivation for having multiple roots. > Most notably, The DNS Notation Backwardsness. You'll note that JANET originally used the notation you refer to as "forwards" and it was decided that was a bad idea, and they joined the "backwards" notation crowd. > From a historic perspective it is worthwhile noting that > shortly after Bob Allisat suggested that the IETF build > on the concepts that I had introduced, he was banned from > the IETF mailing list by the then IETF Chair, Fred Baker. Fred banned him at popular request, as with Jim Fleming. > r1:org.ietf.www > www.ietf.org.r1 Who will distribute root selector information? That entity then becomes another root which *someone* must control to avoid collisions. Wait, here you describe it: > Something like part of ICANN can be considered the > consortium of Root-Server Cluster operators which > can accommodate distribution of the generally static > information needed for smooth operation of what I > like to call Next Generation DNS. Oh great, now we re-create ICANN all over again to manage -- get this -- the root! As if they don't do that miserably today. > The likes of Bob Allisat want to empower the user. No. Bob Allisat has an agenda to disrupt legitimate work, and he uses his "power to the people" message to disguise it. > And, the Network must remain stable and reliable. Telling 300M (and growing) internet users that Amazon.com has suddenly become nsi:com.amazon is not the paragon of reliability or user-friendliness. > Because this idea centers around selection of the > root-server by user's software, creation of these > peer universes is outside of any particular > authority. Users do not care who runs the root. Users, by and large, do not know the root even exists! The only people who want "multiple roots" are the people that want to *run* these alternate roots. S
- Revisiting - Re: Now: Next Generation Domains and… "Mohsen BANAN"
- Re: Revisiting - Re: Now: Next Generation Domains… Dave Crocker
- Re: Revisiting - Re: Now: Next Generation Domains… Stephen Sprunk
- Re: Revisiting - Re: Now: Next Generation Domains… Fred Baker
- Re: Revisiting - Re: Now: Next Generation Domains… Dave Crocker
- Re: Revisiting - Re: Now: Next Generation Domains… JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
- Re: Revisiting - Re: Now: Next Generation Domains… Caitlin Bestler
- Raising and lowering the roof of the DNS;-)... Einar Stefferud
- Re: Revisiting - Re: Now: Next Generation Domains… Einar Stefferud
- Re: Raising and lowering the roof of the DNS;-)... Jim Fleming
- Re: Raising and lowering the roof of the DNS;-)... Valdis.Kletnieks
- Re: Revisiting - Re: Now: Next Generation Domains… Jim Fleming
- "Technical solutions for social problems almost n… Keith Moore
- Re: Raising and lowering the roof of the DNS;-)... Einar Stefferud
- Revisiting The DNS Notation Backwardsness Problem… Mohsen BANAN
- Re: Revisiting The DNS Notation Backwardsness Pro… Dave Crocker
- Re: Revisiting The DNS Notation Backwardsness Pro… Brian E Carpenter
- PTR records and software support (was Re: Revisit… Valdis.Kletnieks
- Re: PTR records and software support (was Re: Rev… John Stracke
- Re: Revisiting DNS Notation Mohsen BANAN
- Re: Revisiting DNS Notation John Stracke
- Re: PTR records and software support (was Re: Rev… Bill Manning
- Re: Revisiting DNS Notation Valdis.Kletnieks
- Re: Revisiting The DNS Notation Backwardsness Pro… Stephen Sprunk
- Re: PTR records and software support (was Re: Rev… Vernon Schryver