Re: Problem with the draft-all aliases

Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> Tue, 03 January 2017 21:20 UTC

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Subject: Re: Problem with the draft-all aliases
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I've also seen it and will make sure it gets in front of the right people.

RjS


On 1/3/17 2:54 PM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote:
>> On Jan 3, 2017, at 3:39 PM, Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net> wrote:
>>
>> I just copied the review directly to the authors' individual addresses, and
>> they received it fine. But obviously, something is wrong in the IETF's
>> guidance to reviewers, or in the implementation of these expansion lists.
>> The simple "exploder" function just does not work if the sender is left to
>> the original "from" address. That exploder function is not compatible with
>> SPF, or presumably with DMARC. Who would be a good contact to discuss
>> improvements?
> IIRC Glen from AMSL reads this list, in which case the message has already
> reached the right ears.  As for possible remediation, if the lists are
> implemented as local aliases(5) in the ietf.org Postfix server, then assigning
> an "owner-" alias to the list is sufficient to avoid trouble with SPF and simple
> forwarding should not break DKIM or DMARC.
>
> The aliases(5) file (or its database representation) would then contain
> something along the lines of:
>
> 	document.all: author1@a.example, author2@b.example
> 	owner-document.all: postmaster@ietf.org
>