Re: BCP 83 PR actions and new media

[Abdussalam Baryun <[e-mail]>]

On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 9:41 PM Keith Moore <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> On 11/9/22 13:31, Samuel Weiler wrote:
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> > Colleagues,
> >
> > Do PR actions also apply to other-than-email IETF communications such
> > as Github, Slack, Zulip, and whatever new collaboration technologies
> > we adopt in the future?
> >
> > I propose that they should and that we should not need to revise BCP
> > 83 every time we add a new collaboration technology, and I'm hoping
> > you agree with me.
>

I read now the BCP83, and yes I agree only IETF mailing lists. Now I feel
the mailing lists are more better environment to communicate in than
Github, zulip, other media.


>
> Separately, I've been wondering whether PR actions should apply to
> speech over private email, since I received numerous abusive private
> messages related to the recent PR discussion.
>

If it was a private email from @ietf.org then it is within IETF, but I
don't see the BCP83 including this issue.


>
> I do think that, just as the bounds of propriety should be explicit and
> clear (and they're definitely not either of those at present), the scope
> of speech to be considered for PR actions should also be explicit and
> clear.
>

I agree, however, there may no need to be clear on common things about
good/ugly communications, because it is depending on either common sense
(human_group sense) or what is usually done in family/social organisations.
Usually old_head_group of family may have agreed-rules of punishments to
help family_progress.

AB

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